Stacey King on Derrick Rose: “If he never goes down… he’s Michael Jordan.”

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And you see why bulls fans have a strange relationship with King at times. We did draft him over the likes of Kemp and Vlade after all.
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Love Stacey King. Best put some respect on this legend’s name.


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There's a part of The Jordan Rules where the Bulls brought a nutritionist to work with King.

They worked through a hour or so of an action plan. At which point King went to get a massage from the training staff...where he started snacking on Doritos. :lol:
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Bush4Ever. wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:49 pm There's a part of The Jordan Rules where the Bulls brought a nutritionist to work with King.

They worked through a hour or so of an action plan. At which point King went to get a massage from the training staff...where he started snacking on Doritos. :lol:
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Bush4Ever. wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:49 pm There's a part of The Jordan Rules where the Bulls brought a nutritionist to work with King.

They worked through a hour or so of an action plan. At which point King went to get a massage from the training staff...where he started snacking on Doritos. :lol:
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In terms of explosiveness and quickness off the dribble, hops, aerial/body control, the ability to finish at the rim in heavy traffic, and the ability to create shots/looks for himself and others, Rose was indeed very Jordanesque, not to mention he (like MJ, and Kobe) WANTED the last shot... he wasn't afraid of "the moment" (like LeBron, who defers to teammates with the game in balance too many times to count).

Outside of those skills, talents and intangibles Rose was not on Jordan's level in any facet... BUT he didn't need to be, given the superior talent, chemistry and depth of those Thibs Era Bulls. All Rose had to do was stay healthy and the Bulls win at least 1-2 Championships, if not more.

Sadly though, Rose is/was made out of glass... and that's all she wrote.
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Stacey King is a known idiot.

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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:19 am In terms of explosiveness and quickness off the dribble, hops, aerial/body control, the ability to finish at the rim in heavy traffic, and the ability to create shots/looks for himself and others, Rose was indeed very Jordanesque, not to mention he (like MJ, and Kobe) WANTED the last shot... he wasn't afraid of "the moment" (like LeBron, who defers to teammates with the game in balance too many times to count).

Outside of those skills, talents and intangibles Rose was not on Jordan's level in any facet... BUT he didn't need to be, given the superior talent, chemistry and depth of those Thibs Era Bulls. All Rose had to do was stay healthy and the Bulls win at least 1-2 Championships, if not more.

Sadly though, Rose is/was made out of glass... and that's all she wrote.
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Robceltsfan wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:20 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:19 am In terms of explosiveness and quickness off the dribble, hops, aerial/body control, the ability to finish at the rim in heavy traffic, and the ability to create shots/looks for himself and others, Rose was indeed very Jordanesque, not to mention he (like MJ, and Kobe) WANTED the last shot... he wasn't afraid of "the moment" (like LeBron, who defers to teammates with the game in balance too many times to count).

Outside of those skills, talents and intangibles Rose was not on Jordan's level in any facet... BUT he didn't need to be, given the superior talent, chemistry and depth of those Thibs Era Bulls. All Rose had to do was stay healthy and the Bulls win at least 1-2 Championships, if not more.

Sadly though, Rose is/was made out of glass... and that's all she wrote.
This is merely a 5-1/2 season sample size.

https://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm
Those stats are through the *2009* season... ie; 16 years ago, ie; before LeBron "took his talents" to Miami because (in his own words) he was tired of having to "always be the man" in Cleveland. In other words just because he feels like he's being "forced" to take those shots does not mean that he *wants* to do so.

Alpha Scorers WANT that role. Guys like Jordan, Bird, Kobe. Iverson, Durant, Rose... they crave/d "the moment" and never ran from it. Other players (like Magic, Pippen, LeBron) prefer to defer.

So on that note, please stop using cherry-picked stats/clips in an effort to try and create a narrative/perception about LeBron that isn't true, and just let his legacy stand for what it is; ie; a guy who always prefers/ed to defer to his teammates "in the moment" first and take the shot, second.

...and BTW, there is NOTHING wrong with that type of player. It's just that some guys are naturally-born to always crave that "moment" and always be "the man" when the pressure is at its highest (Rose), and some guys aren't (LeBron).

It is what it is, no use in trying to deny.
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I'm not wasting $9.00 to get a Stathead subscription to prove you wrong. I guarantee Lebron took more and made more "clutch" shots than Rose even during his 2-1/2 decent seasons he had. :lol:
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I don't think he passes Jordan but LeBron would've been left in the dust, rose had his flaws but he wasn't afraid to step up. Lebron has been a cowardly bitch his entire career which is why he has no memorable moments in the playoffs and even if he did nobody would care bc he's a class S douchenozzle and he's fucking boring
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Lebron hasn't had memorable moments in the playoffs?

wut?

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Bush4Ever. wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:31 pm Lebron hasn't had memorable moments in the playoffs?

wut?

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Robceltsfan wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:50 pm
Bush4Ever. wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:31 pm Lebron hasn't had memorable moments in the playoffs?

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Robceltsfan wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:11 pm I'm not wasting $9.00 to get a Stathead subscription to prove you wrong. I guarantee Lebron took more and made more "clutch" shots than Rose even during his 2-1/2 decent seasons he had. :lol:
Pffft... ANY player who tells you he's tired of having to be "the man" all the time is NOT a guy who has that Alpha Scorer's mentality (like MJ, Kobe, Bird, Durant and Rose).

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"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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EVERYBODY remembers that clip, BTW... that shot came as a result of one of the most horrifically bad LeRef calls in NBA history, which wrongly gave the ball back to Miami. LeFraud should have never even been in position to take that shot... instead it should have been Bulls ball, which would have sealed the game and given the Bulls a commanding 3-1 series lead.

Instead the LeRefs stepped in to save LeFraud's legacy.

Nothing impressive at all about it.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:53 pm EVERYBODY remembers that clip, BTW... that shot came as a result of one of the most horrifically bad LeRef calls in NBA history, which wrongly gave the ball back to Miami. LeFraud should have never even been in position to take that shot... instead it should have been Bulls ball, which would have sealed the game and given the Bulls a commanding 3-1 series lead.

Instead the LeRefs stepped in to save LeFraud's legacy.

Nothing impressive at all about it.
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